Doddler's RO Journal



Kyuu wrote on July 11, 2008



How is that first song called? =D

Nice vid btw.



akoiki wrote on July 11, 2008



i'm not in alpha.. or peco whisperers.. :p



Kirano wrote on July 11, 2008



Nice, it's good to know it's possible even without godly gear, by having a party that knows what it's doing. So how much time did the entire fight take?



Guru Clef wrote on July 11, 2008



My hope against the strongest mvps are the third job...




David wrote on July 11, 2008



just wow, i like the party's organization you can kill everything with that cordination



Perceval wrote on July 12, 2008



Excellent teamwork, but why has no one dispelled Randgris' Assumptio?



Yue wrote on July 12, 2008



Doddler just conducted a very important feasibility test and given us a prime example how to tackle Rangdris via normal equipment and great planning. Just awesome, Doddler! Thank you very much.



Guru Clef wrote on July 12, 2008



But maybe to find a party with so many high skilled players can be so dificult for the most people than have a godly item.

In my server this can be near to impossible...



Tommy wrote on July 12, 2008



Why didn't the party use land protector to protect from the valk's LoV? Is this not advised?



Anthor wrote on July 12, 2008



I like the songs a lot what is it?



Atum wrote on July 12, 2008



@Tommy : they didnt ME so they can use blinding mist/pneuma/sanctuary to protect themselves against pulse strike/earthquake
@Video : nicely done, but technically this wasnt a 12 man party since you used mercenaries to give EQ more targets to reduce its damage.
And while this proofs that a full party is capable of killing randgris i still think it was stupid to give orclord, rsx and bapho earthquake since these mvps are not worth the persons needed to survive them without GR/GTB.



Feint wrote on July 13, 2008



@Atum: Orc Lord, RSX and Baphomet can still quite easily be killed by just jumping through portals everytime they cast Earthquake. I agree that Earthquake is far too powerful to be used by MVPs such as those, but it's still not very hard to avoid its damage.



FEAR/Daredevil wrote on July 13, 2008



Atum: You got to remember that Orc Lord drops Sloted doom slayer, Baphomet drops sloted magestic and sloted Scythe, RSX drops sloted ice pick, ifrit and ragdris drops are powerfull too, so thats why they have EQ.

Whe manage to kill RAG MVP with a 6 members party, but whe use 2 ghostrings card..... no shield reflect bullshit, but yes to a high coordination on ice walls and very nice tank/support players... i know the point doddler was trying to prove, and has he already told us, EQ it is not SO unbalanced skill, has it rewards plenty with drops of monster that use it...



Guru Clef wrote on July 13, 2008



Baphomet good drops have very low chance: 0,5% to schyte[1] and 0,1% to mg[1].

And ice pick from RSX: ice pick 0,06% and ice pick[1] 0,02% (the same chance of a very expensive mvp card)

So, in the pratice RSX and Baphomet don't have something especial to give.

Orc Lord have a very nice droping, but nothing compared to a Valkiria. And in Bro server Doom Slayer[1]in bro server: less than 15m zennys.


Baphomet, RSX and Orc Lord was some of the most powerfull mvps of the past. Give the Earth Quacke was the way that Gravity think to let this great monsters be too powerfull than another simple news mvps. (my theory)



BC-PLDN wrote on July 13, 2008



Your team lacks in many aspects still...

You have 2 soul linkers, i can tell, that is pure waste of party space.

1. Lord Knight - Tank
2. Paladin 1 - Devotion-AutoGuard-Defender on LK

3. Paladin 2 - Back row, casts battle chant to party
chance for x2 HP for Devotion Paladin, X2 Attack and +20 Stats to all

4-5. Assassin Cross (x2) - Soul Destroyers
6-7. High Priest (x2) - Safety Wallers, Buffers, Healers

8. High Wizard - Quagmire, Ice Wall, Backup Safety Waller

9. Clown - Bragi, Idun's Apple (for Devo-Pally)

10. Biochemist - Soul linked, 10k Pitch to Devotion paladin. Full Chem Protection the LK.

11. Professor - Dispeller, SP Healer
12. Soul Linker - Soul link the Biochemist.




BC-PLDN wrote on July 13, 2008



Main problem in your team are:

1. Lack of offense
2. When the "Tank" which is the paladin dies, it will direct it's attack to the team, as oppose to having a LK as the main tank, when Randgris dishes out damage enough to kill you, it will kill the Devotion Paladin instead, LK remains alive, because of Safety Wall and Heal thrown at him, easy enough, Randgris will not "YET" direct it's attack to the team because the TANK is still alive, it's fairly easy enough to resurrect the Devo Paladin fast enough, then devotion the LK again.

3. Tanks should wear Goibne's Set (if you allow that). Anyway, you did not use the battle chant. for 1 minute, it has a chance to double the Devo Paladin's HP, think of the possibilities. X2 Attack on the Soul Destroyers. +20 Stats to High Priest's.



Doddler wrote on July 13, 2008



I am aware of the problem with the lack of offense in this party... its the main complaint we got about the video. Unfortunately paladin was the only character we could use as a tank. We don't have angeling armor, and holy armor is pretty well required to tank randgris, so we make use of the Archdam-crusader armor set to receive holy armor. If he had angeling, we would have made use of an LK tank.

Goibne's Set sounds like a good idea but I don't like the idea of taking 20% more damage from earthquake and randgris's physical attacks (due to loss of raydric card). It is however, really nice on a devotion/sacrifice paladin.



Lupus wrote on July 13, 2008



The purpose of the linker was for Kaizel (Auto-Res) and Kaupe(Absorbs one hit of EQ). The needs to be two linkers so each can be soul linked so they can use Ka- skills on all players.



Chocolate Milk wrote on July 13, 2008



@BC-PLDN

yeah wut Lupus said ^^...



Phaust wrote on July 14, 2008



song names plox



Ultima66 wrote on July 14, 2008



Song #1 is a remix of Faith is for the Transient People, Sanae's theme from Touhou 10.

Song #2 is a remix of The Youkai Mountain ~ Mysterious Mountain, Aya's theme from Touhou 10.



Perceval wrote on July 14, 2008



I don't understand why Angeling Armor is required for tanking Randgris. Doesn't the Holy Attack get blocked by Safety Wall anyway? And I'd still like to know what no one dispelled Randgris' Assumptio. xD



Chocolate Milk wrote on July 14, 2008



@Perceval angeling armour gives holy elemental armour....have you tried using silver arrows(holy ele) agaisnt a angelring???wont work DUH! holy element is to reduce damage done to the tank by randgris...and i dun think assumptio can be dispelled...never tried...cuz dun have scholar



Yue wrote on July 14, 2008



dispell works on assumptio and everything else... i never noticed that the bgm was from touhou.



MiguelPT wrote on July 14, 2008



From what I know, you cannot dispell Assumptio from monsters (tried it before in BioLabs 3) and the holy element armor is for blocking the very powerful Holy attack in case it hits between safety walls, I supose...



Doddler wrote on July 14, 2008



The holy element attacks from the slaves do about 5k, and from Randgris (in power up) does about 15k to the paladin. They also use it quite frequently, every couple of seconds. Blocking those hits completely with holy armor is considerably better than the alternative. Safety wall can't be relied on for perfect resistance of damage... I'm sure you noticed I got hit on numerous occasions by sonic blow from the minis.

And no, you can't dispel Assumptio or Power Up from monsters.



Vaqaas of Iris wrote on July 14, 2008



Is that Paladin the one you used to level in Thors when he was a crusader?



Suwako wrote on July 15, 2008



Haha, GJ with the BGM. Touhou ftw.



Chocolate Milk wrote on July 15, 2008



well if this is for test runs for endless tower..........then i dun think randgris and ifrit will be your biggest problem.......entweihen and the last boss will be your biggest problem..................soo i'm reallly suggesting a GTB card for priests



Lupus wrote on July 16, 2008



If we had a GTB, I'm sure we'd do a lot of other things as well. =P



Zurno wrote on July 16, 2008



Use BSS instead crusader set.



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Chocolate Milk wrote on July 16, 2008



@Lupus oh right...forgot >_> sorry

@Zurno you need 3 aco class characters to use BSS and one aco character to ACTUALLY HAVE the SKILL, since you would hardly might have 3 aco class characters in the same party i dun think any priests have the skill at all



Doddler wrote on July 16, 2008



BSS suffers the same issue mental strength does- valkyrie will dispel it right away.



Cheese wrote on July 16, 2008



is it only in iRO that Randgris' valkyrie minions won't cast 9999 Heals or is it also in kRO?



Perceval wrote on July 16, 2008



@ Chocolate Milk

If you have nothing constructive to say, don't say it - I was asking why Angeling armor was needed if SW can block the Holy attack, but Doddler's answer made sense, so yea.

@ Doddler
So Agi up and 2Hand Quicken are the only buffs you can dispell on monsters? I always thought Power up was the only thing that was not dispellable... :S



Zable Fahr wrote on July 17, 2008



congratulation for that run ^^

Btw - Your priest could use Assumptio 1 for faster cast :)... And btw. You should insert a spam protection oô



Perceval wrote on July 17, 2008



Doddler, so this info on your ROwiki page is out of date?

Assumptio

Assumptio functions the same as the player skill, and will reduce the damage dealt to the monster by 50%. Because monsters are not affected by Kyrie Elison, you cannot use that skill to cancel Assumptio. It is possible to use Dispell to remove the skill effect.



Chocolate Milk wrote on July 17, 2008



@Zable Fahr assumptio has different deductions on different levels....50% damaged reduced at lv 5 and i think about 1/3 damaged reduce at lv 1



Zurbo wrote on July 17, 2008



Lol, this chocolate is an idiot



Kirano wrote on July 17, 2008



Duration, cast time, cast delay and sp-costs are based on the level. The effect isn't. The 1/3 reduction you're talking about is the WoE reduction.



Doddler wrote on July 17, 2008



It is out of date Perceval. Keep in mind that the RO Future Wiki concerns itself with future game updates... generally speaking I don't go back and make corrections to old data, especially things like assumptio have been in the game for some time. iROWiki has a pretty big monopoly on existing RO details. :)



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Joey wrote on July 18, 2008



Check your mail box on Ragnagate.




Dai Li wrote on July 19, 2008



Official Players could sure learn a bit from private server players :(



Lupus wrote on July 19, 2008



Dai Li: Elaborate.



dave wrote on July 20, 2008



I think he means that on private server, preferred method of mvping is having champ or LK drag mvp to portal, spawn strings, gospel, the sp song outside, have an hp go in to smack down safetywalls right in front of portal and lex the mvp, champ goes in to efist. Should do anywhere between 300K to 999K depending what effects gospel bestowed.



Chocolate Milk wrote on July 21, 2008



some Priavte servers go over the 99lv limit....maning if someone is lets so lv 1000 and maxed vit to 250 ( if the server allows the stat point to go over the 99 limit) then they can have maybe millions of HP....



Kirano wrote on July 21, 2008



I was wondering, you use Ice Wall right? Yet the current information on the FutureWiki indicates Ice Wall probably won't be usable in the tower. Ouchies.



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